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Post by Dabeagle on Mar 5, 2016 10:30:47 GMT -5
Okay, let's look at at a couple of things from Bus Boys. Lucien had eye damage and burns. Evidently, no broken bones are mentioned; however, a hard bump or crack on the head is mentioned, and Lucien was bleeding, apparently badly. It took "several days" for his vision to come back and before he was able to return to school. The discussion with Claire on the porch swing happened, and Griffin organized getting a new bus for Lucien. NOWHERE in Bus Boys does it say the new bus does not already run. It talks about other needs, but if the bus already runs, that saves a lot of time. Okay, Dave or Lugnutz, in which other story does it give Sterling/Boomer's first name? The implication on the discussion boards was that it is not an official SS story--yet. As to how Jamie and Sean would have already known that is simple; when the football came was going on where Boomer first appears, a lot of kids were introduced to each other before Jamie and Sean gave Sterling the nickname. I agree with the assessment of Jamie. Mood swings. In Sean's life, a lot has happened in the last couple of years. Cecelia, his mother, gets very sick. He suddenly is living with his Dad and stepmother, Evelyn, and the three half-brothers he was mostly unaware he had. He transfers to a new school system; he visits his mother in a strange-to-him town once a week; he's persuaded by Jamie to go out for football when previously he seems to have not been very athletic; he has a near twin; he is wrestling with his sexual orientation; he dates a girl who too much resembles his mother; and he then has to deal with the loss of his mother. Also, he may be going through puberty at a different rate than Jamie. Asher's comment was not insensitive, since it was not made to Sean─ it was truthful. No wonder he has mood swings! I look forward to reading the story where his mood swings play an important role. Has anyone in the Sanitaria Springs writing universe considered writing a story where Sean, Niki, and Philip are discussing how they feel like outsiders at times? After all, Sean was not raised in the Springs. Niki was raised in a country where culture and language were very different. Philip made himself an outsider by his talk and actions when he was Little Phil. Has either Gavin or Philip, or both, considering changing their last name from Ashmore to their mother's maiden name? Any chance of a story from Boomer/Sterling's viewpoint soon? Bus Boys was only partially written when Ryan passed. When we'd write a story that took place earlier in the timeline, we'd then have to adjust the stories that followed. I didn't spell out how badly off the new bus was nor did I specify how much time had passed - but that was on me because it didn't occur to me. It's probably something Ryan and I, together, would have caught because we'd bat things back and forth; by myself I don't catch as much. When Boomer was written, part of the joke was that he wouldn't tell Jamie his name. At the time Ryan had a few plans to put Boomer or Philip together with Asher, something we red-herringed quite a bit. However, I was partial to the Asher/Sean pairing and, with the somewhat ambiguous ending to The Exception (which was actually coded to let you know what had happened between Sean and Asher) and, as the what became Cookie Monster took shape, Ryan decided it would work. We had planned a fun reveal for Boomer's first name that didn't materialize. I think, as an explanation, school has started and I think it's likely Jamie would have overheard it in class or at practice during a roll call or something. We disagreed about Jamie, Ryan and I, for a while. I'm still not the biggest Jamie fan, but I did have some fun with him more recently. Another character Ryan and I didn't line up about was Mrs. Dudley - Ryan kept redeeming her and I'd dump her back down again. The same thing happened with Mr. and Mrs. Kirkwood. In many ways Ryan wanted the Kirkwoods to be his own family, gone right, and was averse to there being any strife. However, parents and kids tussle over things and that was more realistic. Sean does have a few things to be moody about, to be sure. However the main reason it gets mentioned here is due to his relationship and difficulty coming to grips with his emotions and sexual orientation, whatever that works out to be. While everything you said about him is true, he's also had tremendous support to help him through - but that all does play a part as there are things you haven't mentioned in that exhaustive list. The story is written, but it has to release into the timeline, so it'll be a little bit more, yet. Niki and Phillip don't know each other that well, and Phillip has some jealousy issues over Nate kissing Nik. Additionally they are all in separate grades and have different problems going on, so I don't see that one happening soon. I don't currently have plans for Gavin and Phillip, for now, is exploring his new relationship with Boomer. I do not currently have any stories planned from Boomer's POV. |
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Post by xpx123 on Mar 8, 2016 9:20:31 GMT -5
Caught up with this story and realised that it was unique. Straight boys helping gay guys out? And especially if it was Jamie. Jamie as a whole, had repeatedly proven himself to be an 'asshole'. But as the SS saga moves along, we could gradually notice the change in his personality and behavior. For a guy who's talented in his 'exquisite' vocabulary, what he did was indeed remarkable. If you will, noble. Honestly speaking, I found him to be a complete jerk at the beginning of the SS, he just made me riled up. But ever since the presence of Sean, and maybe him 'maturing', Jamie unknowingly came to establish himself as one of my favourite characters. Even though he had a somewhat arrogant personality, but he changed a lot from the beginning of the SS saga, to this particular story. Maybe u could easily linked it to Sean, his 'angel' twin, but I supposed all in all, it all boils down to ur own actions. This story truly displayed the 'vulnerable' side of Jamie, the positive side and maybe the true nature of his personality, a sweet and gentle guy who seemed to have a thought for everybody since the 'punching' incident. A true display of exemplary qualities, 'cold yet warm' personality. Jamie? The 'evil' guy by popular belief? Or an 'angel' that's disguised as a jerk?
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Post by Dabeagle on Mar 8, 2016 11:17:14 GMT -5
I read, somewhere, that TV shows where you have to take the time to know the characters in order to get the jokes or the quirky nature on display fail much more often than, say, game shows or reality TV. Jamie is a good example of that idea because I didn't like him, either. Ryan loved him, but then we writers do tend to love our characters. The big difference here is that Ryan could see into Jamie's heart and no one else could. I know what he'd planned for Jamie, but I don't know that it will ever come to pass.
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Post by jnwrx1 on Mar 8, 2016 14:11:44 GMT -5
I read, somewhere, that TV shows where you have to take the time to know the characters in order to get the jokes or the quirky nature on display fail much more often than, say, game shows or reality TV. Jamie is a good example of that idea because I didn't like him, either. Ryan loved him, but then we writers do tend to love our characters. The big difference here is that Ryan could see into Jamie's heart and no one else could. I know what he'd planned for Jamie, but I don't know that it will ever come to pass. I think that's more a assessment of literacy standards and education processes, not to mention people's attention spans, if they can't be bothered to invest the time to get to know characters... One wonders how people ever get to know or understand, or accept each other in real life, if they can't invest the time necessary, but then, every personality is different. I don't suppose you'll give any spoilers about Ryan's alternate reality Jamie...  |
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Post by Dabeagle on Mar 8, 2016 21:05:54 GMT -5
Well, there was some talk about someone else running with the idea, so I won't blow it just yet.
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