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Post by PaulR5 on May 18, 2016 1:19:53 GMT -5
Tonight I was enjoying some relaxation after work, finishing supper, and surfing the net, when suddenly my computer started updating from Windows 7 to Windows 10 ─ without my permission.
It only took an hour and a half, and I have the memory and hard drive to do/did it, But has anyone else's computer updated without their permission?
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Post by Dabeagle on May 18, 2016 5:50:54 GMT -5
Sometimes I find my computer has restarted without my permission. I read somewhere that Win10 was moved to the 'required update' or some such which forced Win7 to update itself with 10. My main issues with 10 is compatibility, but it's doing all right so far.
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Post by PaulR5 on May 18, 2016 8:05:22 GMT -5
In my brief (less than 8 hours) time of working in Windows 10, I have been notified that one App -- CCC something -- was "removed from computer because of lack of compatibility." I don't recall ever using that app, so don't miss it. My computer seems to boot faster under Windows 10.
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Post by JohnInOhio on May 18, 2016 20:34:08 GMT -5
I have a new computer because my old computer which came with Windows 8 would freeze and require a restart by holding the power button. I restored to factory specs two times. I'm convinced it was a driver issue. Having said that, I really like Windows 10. I didn't like Windows 8 nearly as well. The new computer came with Windows 10 and it's performed flawlessly. I've had my computer refuse to install one program (Pagemaker) because it was incompatible. It was also very old. It's fine. I really don't use it any more anyway, and I have other page layout software.
W10 downloads updates and when it's ready to install them will tell you that it is scheduling a restart. You can then restart then or wait till the scheduled time. I think there is a way to turn off updates, but I'm not sure I would do that.
One thing I would advise is to do a restart occasionally. When you shut down Windows saves a number of states and when you turn the computer on it restores those states. That's how your computer can be up and running in 10 to 15 seconds. Occasionally, however, something gets saved that is a problem. In that case you can't get rid of that problem. When you do a restart Windows does NOT save those states. Instead it shuts down completely. When the computer turns back on, Windows has to load everything from scratch the old fashioned way. That's why updates require a restart. It also takes much longer.
I hope your upgrade goes well. I'm had a good experience (except for needing to spend money on a new desktop) Be thankful you skipped W8.
John
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Post by PaulR5 on May 22, 2016 22:08:58 GMT -5
I am glad I skipped Windows 8. Everyone I talked to with W8, except one person, liked XP and Windows 7 better. I am liking Windows 10 more and more as I use it.
One of my friends was forcibly upgraded to Win 10 Saturday night. Now he cannot get his computer to recognize his I-Pod and can't sync it or upload pics from the I-Pod. He is an unhappy camper!
Since I didn't have anything synced with mine, and don't have an I-pod, it didn't affect me the same way.
I tried the new Edge browser, and I hate it. I did not think any browser could be slower than Internet Explorer, but Edge manages to be. I normally use Chrome or AOL Shield or Firefox, and I notice Windows 10 removed IE entirely, as far as I can tell.
One app the Win 10 install removed entirely was called "CCC Greek Help." I don't know what that was, but I never used it. It also removed the "Bing Help Bar," which I did use. That's odd, since Bing is a Microsoft search engine.
Anyone else notice quirks about Windows 10?
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Post by Lugnutz on May 23, 2016 6:36:47 GMT -5
As far as I know, it never automatically upgraded. My 8.2 does fine.
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Post by JohnInOhio on May 23, 2016 11:05:07 GMT -5
Microsoft retired IE. and, as far as I know it was not part of the Windows 10 upgrade. I would imagine that Cortana is the replacement for the Bing Help Bar. I use google. I've not used Cortana much except to experiment. I should hook up a microphone so I can talk to her. I think you have to train her to know your voice. You can still type searches into her search box.
I've never heard of CCC Greek Help. Interesting.
There's no reason an iPad or other iOs device shouldn't sync with Windows 10. Maybe he needs to reinstall the software. It's possible Apple needs to update iTunes.
John
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Post by PaulR5 on May 23, 2016 13:53:57 GMT -5
His wife called their son, and he walked them through re-doing what they wanted to do with those devices. So, that worked out.
You are probably right about Cortana. But Microsoft did not need a SLOWER browser with Edge. If Google and and AOL can make faster browsers, then Microsoft also should be able to do so.
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Post by JohnInOhio on May 23, 2016 17:01:27 GMT -5
His wife called their son, and he walked them through re-doing what they wanted to do with those devices. So, that worked out. You are probably right about Cortana. But Microsoft did not need a SLOWER browser with Edge. If Google and and AOL can make faster browsers, then Microsoft also should be able to do so. I've not used a Microsoft browser in years. I started with Netscape, then I used Opera. When I started using Firefox (Even before it was called Firefox) I've pretty much stuck with it. I also use Chrome. I like the fact that you can tell Chrome to always go back to where it was when it was closed. I have google calendar running in Chrome and keep it up on my second monitor. It lets me know when I have to work and reminds me of appointments. (I also use it to play Sirius Radio when I'm in the mood for music.) Having said that, I really haven't noticed Edge being that slow. How much memory do you have? Windows 8 needed lots of memory. 10 is supposed to be better about that, but more memory doesn't hurt. Also, it could be the connection. Check your wifi connection. Go to Fast.com and check your speed. Or try speedtest.net. I'm at work now with my laptop on the library's wifi. I can't see a difference between the browsers it's all slow. I'll try at home later. Sorry about rambling on. This is stuff I'm really interested in. John |
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Post by PaulR5 on May 23, 2016 22:39:52 GMT -5
Oh, I have plenty of memory--8 gigabytes. I have a one terabyte hard drive. When I run speed tests, I get about 125-150 megabyte download speeds. On my old high speed connection, I was getting about 7 mbps.
Firefox, AOL Shield, and Chrome are far superior to IE/Edge in speed. AOL Shield is built on a Chrome framework, but works slightly different than Chrome. Perhaps I am just spoiled to the far superior speed of the non-Edge browsers.
I have a hard-wired connection, but am considering wifi.
Thanks for your input.
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Post by JohnInOhio on May 24, 2016 21:40:28 GMT -5
paulr5, I was chatting with a coworker today and, out of the blue, mentioned that she didn't use Edge because she thought it was slower than other browsers. SO... It seems I was wrong. I was speaking out of ignorance. I don't use Edge. (Actually I used Edge with I first got my computer. I used it to download Firefox. Then I used Firefox to download Chrome and everything else I've downloaded.) So, My apologies, I've obviously not paid enough attention to what Edge is like. Ultimately it doesn't matter. I have no intention of using Edge. I suppose I could be persuaded to use Chrome as my primary browser. I once used Opera. From time to time I hear about it again and think about downloading it again. It seems to have some interesting features.
On the other hand. I really like Windows 10. I use Windows 7 at work and 10 is every bit as good. Better in some respects. Of course I was using 8 before so I'm looking at it through that lens. 8 was much worse that XP.
John
WOAH! i just saw your DL speeds, and I thought my 17mbps was fast. Who is your ISP that you get that kind of speed? I want to move! I'm jealous!
John
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Post by PaulR5 on May 24, 2016 22:24:22 GMT -5
John, I use Suddenlink Cable for my high-speed connection. The upgraded to higher speeds in this area a few months back.
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Post by JohnInOhio on May 26, 2016 0:02:46 GMT -5
Paulr5,
I live in Ohio and have Time Warner Cable (Soon to be Charter Communications) I have no idea what will happen long term. My actual ISP is Earthlink. All that means is that Earthlink provides me with email and usnet. Everything else is provided by TWC. Considering that our TWC bill is already over $100.00 I would hope that there will be no major price increases. My other option is CenturyLink DSL. they offer speeds up to 10 mbps in my area Woo Hoo! If fiber optic were available I'd be excited. It's too bad the deck is stacked against competition. I'd love to see two or more companies duke it out over speed and price.
We'll see what happens once the FCC's back is turned and they loose interest.
John
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Post by Dabeagle on May 26, 2016 7:30:26 GMT -5
We have TWC already, too, and I not excited about Charter. Our bill is at 100.00, but we did away with cable itself and pay for internet with the Turbo option along with the home phone. We use Amazon Prime and get their video service as well as Netflix, which allows me to avoid commercials and we get news through news sites online.
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Post by PaulR5 on May 26, 2016 11:14:27 GMT -5
We have our landline, Internet connection, and cable through Suddenlink Communications. The bill is higher than I wish, but I'm thinking about deleting some movie channels we rarely use. I will say this for Suddenlink-- They arrive when they say they do, at least in the Branson, Missouri area and surrounding communities covered by them. They have a "two hour window" of arrival time, and have never arrived later than 15 minutes into the time window--at least not at my place. Sometimes they have even called and asked if it is okay to arrive early!
Two more of my friends experienced the forced upgrades to Windows 10 over the weekend.
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