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Post by PaulR5 on Oct 10, 2016 1:25:03 GMT -5
Dave, another home run! I was glad that Crispin's parents are coming around somewhat, and look forward to seeing more in that saga, eventually. Thanks also for the explanation of Todd's medical condition regarding driving.
I was glad that Nate had the intestinal fortitude to break up with Erica. Further, for Nate to admit he is bi is a big step. It was many years before I admitted to myself that I am bi. And, bi persons do get flak from "both sides" of the sexuality spectrum.
Good going, Dave.
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Post by Lugnutz on Oct 10, 2016 9:50:29 GMT -5
I like that Cris's parents are not totally against it. They are willing to learn.
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Post by simonuk on Oct 10, 2016 10:48:00 GMT -5
How cute was that ?!I must confess I didn't originally click with Crispin and so I was kinda pulling for Nate to couple up with Dylan, by the end though I warmed up to Cris. I often wonder what it is about certain characters that immediately resonate, some that are more slow to warm up to and others that just don't get there at all, I suppose its the same with people in the real world really. I hope Crispin's parents become supportive to him and Dyl , it does seem as though they are trying, in spite of their somewhat conservative attitudes. I'm so glad Nate got rid of that odious bitch and stuck up for his buddy, it doesn't look good for his poor mother though does it? Think Sean may be able to offer him some support in that regard as well as Dylan of course. We just need to find him a romantic interest now, Nikki?? Thanks for another awesome story Dave 😊
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Post by Q on Oct 10, 2016 12:06:10 GMT -5
Just as all Sanitaria Springs stories a great story. It fills another bit of the overall view. Todds story at the end gives a good explanation why he is alone.
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Post by Israfil on Oct 10, 2016 15:25:04 GMT -5
Crispin's parents deserve some credit for trying to understand...but I'm still inclined to agree with Crispin in that a kid has a right to expect that his or her parents will love him enough to accept him for who he is. Many parents react far worse but they were still a little...whiny.
I've been told that parents have to deal with the loss of a life they envisioned for their child and themselves. That's hard. But also not your kid's problem, not to sound heartless. I suspect mine went through something similar but they were able to refrain from most of the inane remarks shown here which are regrettably all too accurate.
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Post by simonuk on Oct 10, 2016 16:03:31 GMT -5
Crispin's parents deserve some credit for trying to understand...but I'm still inclined to agree with Crispin in that a kid has a right to expect that his or her parents will love him enough to accept him for who he is. Many parents react far worse but they were still a little...whiny. I've been told that parents have to deal with the loss of a life they envisioned for their child and themselves. That's hard. But also not your kid's problem, not to sound heartless. I suspect mine went through something similar but they were able to refrain from most of the inane remarks shown here which are regrettably all too accurate. I remember being a little disappointed that my coming out was greeted with a sort of ambivalence by my mother! I think in the case of Crispins parents , in their conservative world, never even considered the possibility that they could have a gay son. I guess their reaction is pretty typical, although sadly we all too often hear cases of much much worse parental actions. I think they will do ok by him , eventually, and with a few blips along the way 😊
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Post by Greys on Oct 10, 2016 17:29:33 GMT -5
Left a comment on Facebook, but thought I should also leave one here. Sounds like Crispin has a ways to go yet with his parents and their understanding. Interesting that his Father has a Gay sister that has never been mentioned to him, (Crispin) before. If that is the case, the parents knew better than to try and blame Dylan, but they hand to try and blame someone. As has been mentioned before thanks also for the explanation of why Todd could not drive. Also, the furthering of the plot with Nick breaking up with his girlfriend, and explaining his feelings. Will lead to some furture interesting stories am sure.
Again, Thank You for all of the hard work you and the Other Author's do to make this site so enjoyable. Know it is not easy, but again, Thanks.
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Post by Dabeagle on Oct 10, 2016 20:26:32 GMT -5
Dave, another home run! I was glad that Crispin's parents are coming around somewhat, and look forward to seeing more in that saga, eventually. Thanks also for the explanation of Todd's medical condition regarding driving. I was glad that Nate had the intestinal fortitude to break up with Erica. Further, for Nate to admit he is bi is a big step. It was many years before I admitted to myself that I am bi. And, bi persons do get flak from "both sides" of the sexuality spectrum. Good going, Dave. Thank you, Paulr5! I've written all kinds of parents, but this was a new one for me - tossing all those silly things out there that make people think they can tell who is gay and who isn't. I don't understand the conservative mindset, frequently, however I wanted to write them from that perspective but without the rejection. I know there are a lot pf people with uncomfortable relationships with their families, families who love the person but struggle to accept them fully and I wanted to explore that here. You can thank my beta reader for the bit about Todd. He said specifically I should address that. Adding in Nate's scene was a late thing, but I've noticed that Nate gets some hostility for his back and forth emotions as has Sean Kelly. For the record, I do think bi-sexuality is a real thing and I'm sure it's a fricking struggle. It's tough enough to make it just looking at one gender without adding in another. Couple that with people who want to pin you to gay or straight or simply call you names for those attractions... Nate is a good and decent kid. He just doesn't realize the effects of his actions, like a lot of kids his age, and he has to learn.
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Post by Dabeagle on Oct 10, 2016 20:31:10 GMT -5
How cute was that ?!I must confess I didn't originally click with Crispin and so I was kinda pulling for Nate to couple up with Dylan, by the end though I warmed up to Cris. I often wonder what it is about certain characters that immediately resonate, some that are more slow to warm up to and others that just don't get there at all, I suppose its the same with people in the real world really. I hope Crispin's parents become supportive to him and Dyl , it does seem as though they are trying, in spite of their somewhat conservative attitudes. I'm so glad Nate got rid of that odious bitch and stuck up for his buddy, it doesn't look good for his poor mother though does it? Think Sean may be able to offer him some support in that regard as well as Dylan of course. We just need to find him a romantic interest now, Nikki?? Thanks for another awesome story Dave 😊 Cris just needs a little confidence. I think that, with his parents more settled and that he's out and has some support, he'll grow stronger. Some of us have the stuff to stand up and be who we are and damn everyone else. But not all of us. Some of us need more support than others and some of us never get it. Cris's support may be, at least from his parents, reluctant, but it is there. I was actually thinking today about Nate, Micah, Nik, Devyn... I thought it was really important for Nate to show who he has become, here, with that scene. He's not perfect, not by a long shot, but he's good. I know what you mean about characters, though. I recently had a conversation with a good friend about a character who didn't resonate with me for the vast majority of his story. In the end I found some virtue for him, but I liked others better.
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Post by Dabeagle on Oct 10, 2016 20:32:36 GMT -5
Crispin's parents deserve some credit for trying to understand...but I'm still inclined to agree with Crispin in that a kid has a right to expect that his or her parents will love him enough to accept him for who he is. Many parents react far worse but they were still a little...whiny. I've been told that parents have to deal with the loss of a life they envisioned for their child and themselves. That's hard. But also not your kid's problem, not to sound heartless. I suspect mine went through something similar but they were able to refrain from most of the inane remarks shown here which are regrettably all too accurate. My own mother had prejudices to overcome based on her experiences with my father. She thought she knew what it meant to be gay and that it revolved strictly around sex. She's always been supportive of me regardless and continues to be my greatest ally.
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Post by carlholiday on Oct 10, 2016 23:13:19 GMT -5
Dave, another great story. Not only did I like the way Cris and Dylan's love blossomed. There was those wonderful passages with Nate. He seems like a great character, but usually it's some other character talking about him. It was nice to see him finally admit he's bi. Although it wasn't required, Todd's explanation of his medical condition was an interesting inclusion. Now, all you have to do is find a boyfriend for Nikki; or maybe just a little more commitment from Nate?
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Post by Dabeagle on Oct 11, 2016 9:54:13 GMT -5
Dave, another great story. Not only did I like the way Cris and Dylan's love blossomed. There was those wonderful passages with Nate. He seems like a great character, but usually it's some other character talking about him. It was nice to see him finally admit he's bi. Although it wasn't required, Todd's explanation of his medical condition was an interesting inclusion. Now, all you have to do is find a boyfriend for Nikki; or maybe just a little more commitment from Nate? Thank you so much, Carl. I truly enjoyed Cris and Dylan's relationship as it felt very natural and organic in its development, being friends first and romantic later on. I thought Todd's condition required some sort of explanation, partially to drive off the last of that idea from the first story that he was somehow not such a good guy. Nik and Nate are interesting individuals and some sort of resolution might be in order for them.
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Post by Steve T. on Oct 11, 2016 13:24:23 GMT -5
I'm never disappointed when I read a Sanitaria Springs story. Thanks for another great one.
Like others have mentioned, I was pleased to see Nate stand up for his friends against Erica. (How do some people learn to be so cruel and manipulative?) But unlike what some others said, I've liked Nate. He's never been perfect. He's definitely flawed, but aren't we all? I think I saw some potential in him (or maybe I just wanted to see potential in him).
I was also happy to get a little partial resolution concerning Nelson maybe getting his job back after being fired for being proud of his gay son. It kind of softens the dislike I was developing for Cris's parents.
Thanks for another great addition!
Steve
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Post by xpx123 on Oct 12, 2016 11:09:11 GMT -5
I would like to say that this is a well written story with certain depth in it and I like the way that Crispin's parents are trying ways and means in order to understand the situation even better. I know at this age and day, most people in the society don't used to be as prejudiced as they were in the past. I believe in the near future, there would be a close acceptance of 100% in which they would recognise us for who we are instead of judging us. Seriously. Isn't that what really love is all about? Defying all odds to be with the one you love? Isn't that the essence of love itself? The ability to stick with your decision throughout with little/no hesistant? I love the fact that Crispin is afraid, and worried about his parents' reaction. Indeed they didn't take it too kindly but Crispin still stood up to them eventually just to be with the one that he loves. That indeed, is really remarkable. You also can't define love based on the age. Love is infinite. No matter how young you are, how old you are, you're the one that understands yourself best, and nobody have the right to tell you anything about love.
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Post by GCdiam on Oct 19, 2016 10:52:11 GMT -5
Wow - I had just about given up on Sanataria Springs ever having anymore updates then found out that I had missed four new stories.
Really, really happy to see you bring Dyl into a full relationship (I hope, I hope) and was so proud of him standing there and not running during the confrontation with Cris' parents.
So many characters with so many levels of interaction which makes these stories so real to me.
Keep up the great work
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